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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
首页推了高清版，果然周末和来自远方就是最配的！
编排完美，歌舞和这种题材太搭了，让人激情昂扬。只有在困境中才能看出一个地方的素质，是否能考虑到尽可能多的情况，关心少数群体，保护动物，人们互相帮助载歌载舞，这才是人性的闪光之处。女机长的独唱更是激励人心。
好难得把一场审判拍的没有很无聊。但N记电影通病还是…创意高，拍摄诡异…看着真难受。
“With the trial starting, it might get easy to forget who this is about” 当这个审判开始后，我们很容易失去方向，忘记我们最初的目的。结局小雀斑在法庭上念出那五千名在越南牺牲的士兵名字时，是个不忘初心的故事。
？？？？？？这个结尾猝不及防。电影本身可谓poorly directed，但索金确实是对话交锋的圣手，仅靠对话去推镜头剧情等一切也能让人体内涌起生理反应的鸡血，并或多或少在他的mansplaining中有所感。（话语权如此性命攸关所以这一整部电影满满当当充斥话语。）（故事中六十年代芝加哥的一切都是为了激励人投票所以这部电影本质也是投票广告。）（顺便，你们知道hayden后来娶了简方达吗。）
4.5 给剧本跪了，给演员跪了。🇨🇳这辈子下辈子再下辈子都不会有这种电影，哦当然，也并不需要。
即便明知是索金毫无避讳射出的完全自我的左翼连珠炮，也愿意毫无保留地被击中；即便明知这是篇诞生于特殊时期的战斗檄文，也愿意不加抵抗地被俘获：在不公与强权下固守着理想主义最后防线的受审者，他们的呼号是横亘时代的宣言。
Very well orchestrated, 但是太 煽 了。这样的剧本，如果对它有满分的信念，又为什么要剪辑和音乐助力呢。
一看就是花时间打磨的剧本，反观国内导演将中国近现代史最重要的战争花三个月拍出来，实在是个笑话。60年代counterculture一直是我认为美国现代史最有趣最重要最多元的一块，其中各种形式的公众演讲是这个年代表达意识形态最重要的形式，索金walk and talk的编剧习惯的确适合这个题材。
艾伦·索金的一贯发挥，保持了快节奏和高密度的台词，工整且有力。只不过倾向性还是很明显的，并且明明是七君子的故事，电影却拍成了五君子，人物塑造的也略显扁平。
好感动ooo 转场设置得好巧妙 喜欢机长的声音
迅速平行跳切像是纪实闪回，这不是虚构的，而是真实事件改编。很灯塔国，该禁，国内就别看这种当庭大声呵斥法官的所谓皿煮，游行示威、公开审判、自由辩论、程序正义的帝国主义阴谋片了， 反正你们又不是没少删禁。陪审团制度也许不是最好的，但总比各种被代表的好。8.2（原短评论已被删）
This is not only the history but also the world we’re living in.
原本以为很严肃（确实也很严肃）但tsn的味道很浓，两个最不正经、插科打诨并不合作的yippes是本片最严肃也是最理想主义的人。索金仍然擅长于拍摄庭审场面、对话和群戏，开头半小时很难不想到tsn。the power of speech在庭审场面几乎成了一个irony，无论是真实地黑豹党领袖噤声或是通过驳回动议来体现司法权力的滥用和亵渎。把真实的纪录片和电影画面、所有证人的视角和庭审剪切一起，女孩被击倒在星条旗上扯碎衣服时，暴力和非暴力的界限已经不再明确了。
我以为节奏感处理得恰到好处，尤其相比索金导演的前作成熟了很多。剧本苛责的话缺少一个让我惊喜的rosebud，希望芬奇能在《曼克》里做到。
开篇一段剪辑凌厉，不了解这段历史的观众需自行查阅补充背景，中间利用庭审来逐段还原事件的真面目，但索金的意图明显不是深挖而是借古喻今。前半段法庭戏好似疲于奔命的美剧，后半段金句频出，可惜全都是浮于表面的论述，大概索金还是驾驭不了如此宏大的叙事。只能说今时今日回顾这段历史的意义肯定大于索金拍出来的意义。
好感人
教科书级别的剪辑，以及这一大票演员的出色演出
鲜脆的节奏，锋利的剪辑。一套直行带插叙下来，整个片子都利落极了。
真好看。Aaron Sorkin写了这么好的剧本，然后找了些英国演员来挑大梁。Mark Rylance，Eddie和Sacha Baron Cohen都太棒了。
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