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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
将近三个小时全是战争场面，让人视觉疲劳，没有第一部火车上看长城那种美得动人心魄的神来之笔，本质上就是在看徐克的武侠片，最后结尾两兄弟的对话是最感动的地方，结果被突兀又难听的片尾曲吓了一跳，这歌太减分了。
单纯以电影角度出发，我觉得故事/电影结构不如第一部。第一部的故事线结构分明，有记忆点；水门桥的故事线相对比较单薄：机场（大概1/4？）———炸桥（占据电影后半程），炸桥部分为群像展示，每位成员接连下线。看完之后感觉只记得狂轰滥炸，故事线没了
2021-10-28 修复重映版 @深影。隐蔽战线
加一星，为了孙道临!
大银幕上的电流声，是老电影的Icon吧，牺牲就是福报的宣传片，那个年代没有私人情感，只有国与家。
看到最后一幕，突然觉得李侠是疲倦而压抑的。他的向往始终是快意恩仇的战场，而不是虚以委蛇的敌后，只不过他的信仰让他忍受下去，坚持下去，去需要他的地方。他有出色的能力，也说服妻子适应了这样的生活，却很难说服自己，不断压制自己的思念和向往，竭力地为信仰服务。
孙道临的眼睛真的像一汪清水!两幕眼神戏就能感受到一个共产党员的信仰!了不起啊了不起
后世对经典的致敬多种多样，有《潜伏》、也有《永不磨灭的番号》
后世对经典的致敬多种多样，有《潜伏》、也有《永不磨灭的番号》
我尊重这种彩色修复技术，运用在这部上来看可以接受，确实增加了可看性，不过有得有失也是必然的，暂不作评判。
小时候看过不知多少遍，现在看还是觉得有当年没发现的细节和好处。那时表现的信仰是有光芒的，就像孙道临的目光晶晶亮、表情质朴而灿烂。李侠和萧涧秋都是那种被理想点燃的，前者坚定到最后，后者迷惘再出发，他们和高觉新不一样。然而不管角色如何变，孙道临的内在气质始终如一：他真好看。
经典黑白彩色修复#很多细节修复得不错，尤其阳光照在金属物品上(汽车盖、灯)的质感，但是风景和植物的色彩就一般。延安的山坡变成一片粉绿，连泥土都是绿的；酒店的绿植是鲜绿色，看着像中毒。电影的剧本其实具有很大的现代化、类型化的改编空间，中国最早的谍战夫妻，看完想重温《潜伏》。如果要翻拍，强烈要求由高群书执导。尽管话剧式的伟光正表演放到现在看有点尴尬，但结合当时的创作环境，演员的信念感非常强，所以表演也都是真情流露、眼中有光，饱满的情感掩盖了剧情的漏洞。单凭这一点，今年的献礼片都可以靠边站。
2021.04.14@崔永元口述历史中心 剪辑叙事都非常流畅，故事略微流水账情节冲突不是很强，也许地下工作正是这样平淡如水，但又那般隐秘而伟大吧，向革命先烈致敬！｜｜2021.11.14 黑白转彩色修复版重温。
——兰芬同志侧脸特别像吴莺音。
“同志们，永别了，我想念你们。”让人潸然泪下的台词，有这一句足矣。
结尾与长津湖开头前后呼应，大泪点！
缅怀一下老电影，虽然那时候的欣赏习惯和拍摄手法现在有点过时，主角动不动就摆戏剧化的poss挺傻的，但它真的激励了一代又一代人，革命先烈永垂不朽
彩色版唤起童年的美好记忆，儿时的偶像孙道临
还能说什么…价值在于我们见证了中国电影工业化的进步…
大男主戏。如果说李侠是以肉体上的牺牲成就其英雄之地位，则兰芬是以其精神上的退场和牺牲成就李侠之英雄地位。“领导-下属”关系自然对接入“夫妻”关系，并在结尾可看出前者优先级始终高于后者。无恋而婚，无性而育的模式代表彼时电影拍摄的语法一种，英雄李侠在“好人坏人故事”的价值体系中黑白分明，有侠骨而无柔肠，是高大全英雄时代的典型形象。20211012，荔湾新影汇。
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